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About the origin of mtHG H

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:36 am
by Gioiello
What a pity that an American, full blooded Italian, mtHG H30a, hasn't got the knowledge for rivendicating the oldest presence of mtHG H in Italy, and a moderator of Anthrogenica, the known geneticist Kristiina Tambets, quotes the oldests mtHG V (derived from HV like H) in Israel: "V and H both split from HV, and the oldest ancient V is as basal as possible: Natufian I1069/Nat5 Raqefet Cave Israel 11500 BCE V".
I don't know if Uralic languages get the numbers for counting all the European flags in the YFull tree (and above all the Italian ones), even though she says that Baltic hgps derived from the Neolithic Southern European ones. But mtHG U5b wasn't already Palaeolithic?
After that Jean Manco passed away, we have another person at her place. At least she is a geneticist...
Why this mt sample isn't in the mt YFull tree?
I1069 Nat5 32.65 35.067 32.663 35.079 M E1b1 E1b1b1(xE1b1b1b1) PF1871 E1b1b E1b-M215 E-M215 E-M215 ... ame=E-M215 E-M215 E1b1b E E 27137 Lazaridis2016 11840-9760 BCE -10800 -11840 -9760 8999 BC 8001 BC 350 301 399 Levant_HG Israel_Natufian Natufian Raqefet Cave Israel

Re: About the origin of mtHG H

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:10 am
by Gioiello
Of course the closest ancestress of mtHG V is HV0a

Kristiina Tambets, are you able to count the flags without IE *"100"?