First impressions about the paper on Italian aDNA of Antonio

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:11 am
Gioiello Tognoni Flor Veseli Ted Kandell, I just checked the BAM file for: R474, Civitavecchia, Etruscan, 700-600BCE (Iron Age/Roman Republic) - J-M12+
He is: J2b-L283>>Z597>Y15058>CTS6190
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-CTS6190/
So the same subclade as Mr. Bennassi and the Jewish DYS455=8 (aka J-Y33795)
J-CTS6190 YTree
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J-CTS6190 YTree
J-CTS6190 YTree
Flor Veseli I did not check for downstreams yet.
Ted Kandell Where are the BAM files? The ENA Project isn't online yet.
Gioiello Tognoni Flor Veseli, this Etruscan certainly was a Jew because he was named Ben Nasi as Ted Kandell demonstrated already some years ago and actual Benassi (not Bennassi, otherwise he should be a Berber) may ask for his Bar Mitzvà. Phone that to him, I don't find him on the blog from so long.
J-CTS6190 YTree
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Gioiello Tognoni R1021 Boville Ernica T. 1. L. petrous, 2.5.18 Petrous Boville Ernica Latini No 700 - 600 BCE Iron Age B Iron/Republic 30-min (partial) 246980 Male U4a1a R-PF7589 0,56 0,01 0,00564 13,11% 39,67
The first R1b-L51-PF7589 found: 700-600 BC.
Gioiello Tognoni Of course, even though the oldest samples are a few, 1 R-M343 more than 7000 years ago and also J (as I am saying from so long):
R6 Grotta Continenza Yes 5242 - 5177 calBCE Upper Paleolithic/Neolithic Neolithic 30-min (partial) 244292 Male K1a1 R-M343 0,58 0,01 0,00764 13,53% 13,40
R19 Ripa Biance; Monterolo Petrous Ripabianca di Monterado Yes 5345 - 5221 calBCE Neolithic Neolithic 30-min (partial) 221869 Male U5b3a1 J-L26 0,50 0,03 0,01281 9,72% 21,90
R17 Ripa Biance; Monterolo Petrous Ripabianca di Monterado Yes 5324 - 5223 calBCE Neolithic Neolithic 30-min (partial) 237489 Male U8b1b J-M304 0,54 0,01 0,00789 9,82% 44,20
Gioiello Tognoni And all the mt U8b and K1 (mine is K1a1b1e) as I am saying from so long from at least 8000 years ago. Even the G-L91 of Oetzi some hundreds of years before him.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:49 am
Thanx to Richard "The moron" Rocca for having checked this R-M343
"Here you go Gaska:
PF6309 R1b1a2
PF6311 R1b1a2
FGC21059 R1b1a2
FGC20975 R1b1a2
FGC20982 R1b1a2
PF6332 R1b1a2
PF6339 R1b1a2
PF6289 R1b1a2
FGC21014 R1b1a2b
FGC21010 R1b1a2b1
FGC21027 R1b1a2b1
FGC21029 R1b1a2b1
FGC21041 R1b1a2b1
So like you said, another solidly R-V88 hunter-gatherer sample".
I let him note that all my theories are confirmed (about hg J very old in Italy, about mt U8b and K1, H etc.). How many samples from Palaeolithic and Mesolithic Italy have been tested from these scholars belonging to the "Jewish-Nigger conspiracy" and the "Jewish, leftist and gay mafia of the aDNA"? About Benassi's haplogroup, the Ted Kandell's Jew Ben Nasi, they didn't give a great contribute.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:58 am
It is very disappointing the number of samples. There are eighteen samples between 10,100 BC and 2,900 BC and only nine males, one of them R1bV88. They were not really interested in the period that matters, WHY? If you don't look you will never find it. Look at the number of samples that were tested in eastern Europe compared to Italy.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:13 am
Blogger Gioiello said...
Ahahahahahah: who did this write already ten years ago?

@Samuel Andrews
"@Ric Hern,
"So did R1b V88 maybe enter Northern Africa from Sicily during the Neolithic ? Less than 200 km as the crow flies..."
Neolithic North Africans have about 40% Southern European farmer ancestry. This ancestry lacks signifcant WHG component. SO, it probably doesn't come from Spain. Sicily is a good canidate.
The African pops with high frequencies of R1b V88 do have small but real European ancestry. By European I mean Neolithic Southern Europe. SO, yeah should be able to explain the R1b V88 in Sahara desert".
"Berbers of North Africa are about 30% Southern European. This ancestry has been there since the Neolithic so 6,000 years. The Black nomad pops in Sahara desert have European mtDNA H1, European Y DNA R1b V88. Overall, Neolithic European ancestry is small but is real in them.
Let's see if the political correct media ever reports on this".

November 8, 2019 at 12:12 AM

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:15 am
dartraighe wrote:It is very disappointing the number of samples. There are eighteen samples between 10,100 BC and 2,900 BC and only nine males, one of them R1bV88. They were not really interested in the period that matters, WHY? If you don't look you will never find it. Look at the number of samples that were tested in eastern Europe compared to Italy.


Dartraighe, don't say that, or you will be accused of being a supporter of "conspiracy theories"...
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