Mt-DNA L2a1a

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R1b1b2a1a
MtDNA:
L2a1a
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:37 am
As far as I know my maternal lineage comes from Southern Galicia, but this was quite a surprise for me. My mt-DNA is L2a1a, from what I've read it has been found mostly in Southeastern Africans, but also in Eastern Europeans where is thought to have arrived 10,000 years ago. Does this mean I have recent African ancestry, or is this a European-specific African lineage(i.e. 10,000 years old). I would appreciate it if anyone could provide any literature as to L2a1a.
Per 23andme:
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b-L11(xU106) (Lineage from Vizcaya)
Mt-DNA Haplogroup: L2a1a (MDKA Dolores Perez Quiñones born in Galiza, Spain)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:13 am
jeanl wrote:As far as I know my maternal lineage comes from Southern Galicia

Do you mean in Spain, or in western Ukraine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:17 am
jeanl wrote:but also in Eastern Europeans where is thought to have arrived 10,000 years ago.

Here is the research paper on that:

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v16/ ... 0870a.html
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However, a prehistoric introgression of African mtDNA lineages into Eastern Europe (approximately 10 000 years ago) seems to be probable only for European-specific subclade L2a1a, defined by coding region mutations at positions 6722 and 12903 and detected in Czechs and Slovaks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:49 am
L2a1 is one of the typical Jewish mtDNA haplogroups. The presence among some East Europeans like Poles and Russian is contributed to them.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0054360

If you know your exact haplotype you could check if it is the Jewish one.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:14 pm
I'm more surprised by your ydna :D
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:13 pm
lgmayka wrote:
jeanl wrote:As far as I know my maternal lineage comes from Southern Galicia

Do you mean in Spain, or in western Ukraine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Spain)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)


Yeah, Southern Galicia, Spain.
Per 23andme:
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b-L11(xU106) (Lineage from Vizcaya)
Mt-DNA Haplogroup: L2a1a (MDKA Dolores Perez Quiñones born in Galiza, Spain)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:46 am
jeanl wrote:As far as I know my maternal lineage comes from Southern Galicia, but this was quite a surprise for me. My mt-DNA is L2a1a, from what I've read it has been found mostly in Southeastern Africans, but also in Eastern Europeans where is thought to have arrived 10,000 years ago. Does this mean I have recent African ancestry, or is this a European-specific African lineage(i.e. 10,000 years old). I would appreciate it if anyone could provide any literature as to L2a1a.


If you tested the full mtDNA genome it should be possible to compare your results with other L2a1a to see which ones you match most closely.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:24 pm
GailT wrote:If you tested the full mtDNA genome it should be possible to compare your results with other L2a1a to see which ones you match most closely.


No full mtDNA, only 23andme mtDNA markers, there is some guy on my mom's relative finder who also has L2a1a, his name is Joseph Nicholson and the guy is from North Caroline, but his hasn't responded yet.
Per 23andme:
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b-L11(xU106) (Lineage from Vizcaya)
Mt-DNA Haplogroup: L2a1a (MDKA Dolores Perez Quiñones born in Galiza, Spain)
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H1ao1
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:38 pm
You can extract your 23andMe available markers here
http://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/
Y DNA - Barcelos - Minho - Portugal. Colonial Brazil
MtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal
Brazilian Portuguese Founding People
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/m365/
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Brasil/
http://j1bm365.blogspot.com.br/
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:12 pm
Ok I loaded my data, here are the results:

Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):


CR: 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9449T 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15734A 15784C
HVR1: 16223T 16256T 16278T 16311C 16390A (16519C)
HVR2: 73G 263G

Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

1) L2a1a

Defining Markers for haplogroup L2a1a:
HVR2: 73G 146C 152C 195C 263G
CR: 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C
HVR1: 16223T 16278T 16294T 16309G 16390A

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup L2a1a (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 12705T 16223T ⇨ N ⇨ 8701G 9540C 10398G 10873C 15301A ⇨ L3 ⇨ 769A 1018A 16311C ⇨ L3'4 ⇨ 182T 3594T 7256T 13650T 16278T ⇨ L3'4'6 ⇨ 4104G 7521A ⇨ L2'3'4'6 ⇨ 146C 150T 152C 2416C 8206A 9221G 10115C 13590A 16311T 16390A ⇨ L2 ⇨ 195C 11944C ⇨ L2a'b'c'd ⇨ 150C 7175C ⇨ L2a ⇨ 2789T 7274T 7771G 11914A 13803G 14566G 16294T ⇨ L2a1'2'3'4 ⇨ 182C 12693G 15784C 16309G ⇨ L2a1 ⇨ 3918A 5285G 15244G 15629C ⇨ L2a1a ⇨ 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(47): 73G 150C 263G 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C 16223T 16278T 16390A
Mismatches(1): 16311C
Extras(4): 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)
Untested(6): 146 152 182 195 16294 16309


2) L2a1a3

Defining Markers for haplogroup L2a1a3:
HVR2: 73G 143A 146C 152C 195C 263G
CR: 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C
HVR1: (16093C) 16223T 16278T 16294T 16309G 16390A

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup L2a1a3 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 12705T 16223T ⇨ N ⇨ 8701G 9540C 10398G 10873C 15301A ⇨ L3 ⇨ 769A 1018A 16311C ⇨ L3'4 ⇨ 182T 3594T 7256T 13650T 16278T ⇨ L3'4'6 ⇨ 4104G 7521A ⇨ L2'3'4'6 ⇨ 146C 150T 152C 2416C 8206A 9221G 10115C 13590A 16311T 16390A ⇨ L2 ⇨ 195C 11944C ⇨ L2a'b'c'd ⇨ 150C 7175C ⇨ L2a ⇨ 2789T 7274T 7771G 11914A 13803G 14566G 16294T ⇨ L2a1'2'3'4 ⇨ 182C 12693G 15784C 16309G ⇨ L2a1 ⇨ 3918A 5285G 15244G 15629C ⇨ L2a1a ⇨ 143A (16093C) ⇨ L2a1a3 ⇨ 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(47): 73G 150C 263G 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C 16223T 16278T 16390A
Mismatches(1): 16311C
Extras(4): 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)
No-Calls(1): 143A (16093C)
Untested(6): 146 152 182 195 16294 16309


2) L2a1a3a

Defining Markers for haplogroup L2a1a3a:
HVR2: 73G 143A 146C 152C 195C 263G
CR: 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9165C 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C
HVR1: (16093C) 16223T 16278T 16294T 16309G 16390A

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup L2a1a3a (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 12705T 16223T ⇨ N ⇨ 8701G 9540C 10398G 10873C 15301A ⇨ L3 ⇨ 769A 1018A 16311C ⇨ L3'4 ⇨ 182T 3594T 7256T 13650T 16278T ⇨ L3'4'6 ⇨ 4104G 7521A ⇨ L2'3'4'6 ⇨ 146C 150T 152C 2416C 8206A 9221G 10115C 13590A 16311T 16390A ⇨ L2 ⇨ 195C 11944C ⇨ L2a'b'c'd ⇨ 150C 7175C ⇨ L2a ⇨ 2789T 7274T 7771G 11914A 13803G 14566G 16294T ⇨ L2a1'2'3'4 ⇨ 182C 12693G 15784C 16309G ⇨ L2a1 ⇨ 3918A 5285G 15244G 15629C ⇨ L2a1a ⇨ 143A (16093C) ⇨ L2a1a3 ⇨ 9165C ⇨ L2a1a3a ⇨ 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(47): 73G 150C 263G 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C 16223T 16278T 16390A
Mismatches(1): 16311C
Extras(4): 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)
No-Calls(1): 143A (16093C)
Untested(7): 146 152 182 195 9165 16294 16309


3) L2a1a2

Defining Markers for haplogroup L2a1a2:
HVR2: 73G 146C 152C 195C 263G
CR: 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C
HVR1: 16223T 16278T 16286T 16294T 16309G 16390A

Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup L2a1a2 (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 2706G 7028T ⇨ HV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R0 ⇨ 73G 11719A ⇨ R ⇨ 12705T 16223T ⇨ N ⇨ 8701G 9540C 10398G 10873C 15301A ⇨ L3 ⇨ 769A 1018A 16311C ⇨ L3'4 ⇨ 182T 3594T 7256T 13650T 16278T ⇨ L3'4'6 ⇨ 4104G 7521A ⇨ L2'3'4'6 ⇨ 146C 150T 152C 2416C 8206A 9221G 10115C 13590A 16311T 16390A ⇨ L2 ⇨ 195C 11944C ⇨ L2a'b'c'd ⇨ 150C 7175C ⇨ L2a ⇨ 2789T 7274T 7771G 11914A 13803G 14566G 16294T ⇨ L2a1'2'3'4 ⇨ 182C 12693G 15784C 16309G ⇨ L2a1 ⇨ 3918A 5285G 15244G 15629C ⇨ L2a1a ⇨ 16286T ⇨ L2a1a2 ⇨ 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)

Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
Matches(47): 73G 150C 263G 750G 769A 1018A 1438G 2416C 2706G 2789T 3594T 3918A 4104G 4769G 5285G 7028T 7175C 7256T 7274T 7521A 7771G 8206A 8701G 8860G 9221G 9540C 10115C 10398G 10873C 11719A 11914A 11944C 12693G 12705T 13590A 13650T 13803G 14566G 14766T 15244G 15301A 15326G 15629C 15784C 16223T 16278T 16390A
Mismatches(2): 16286C 16311C
Extras(4): 9449T 15734A 16256T 16311C (16519C)
Untested(6): 146 152 182 195 16294 16309
Per 23andme:
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b-L11(xU106) (Lineage from Vizcaya)
Mt-DNA Haplogroup: L2a1a (MDKA Dolores Perez Quiñones born in Galiza, Spain)
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