The Georgian Jew ERS1789488


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Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:08 am
Location: Pisa (Italy)
YDNA:
R- Z2110 (KV7Y2)
MtDNA:
K1a1b1e/HQ176413
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:14 am
Sample ID HG 17565606 18720402 22957842 23390582 19127787 23275781 22810702 8068202 23768433 8068960

These are the SNPs (hg19) S19901, S21211, S24925,Y142667, Y142676, Y141696, Y142704, Y142718, Y155739, Y129333
REFSEQ G G T G A A C C C C

YF01886 R-Z2110* G G T G N A N C C C
YF15330 R-S10547 T T C A T C T G A G
HG01277 R-CTS699* G G T N A A C C C C
YF10633 R-CTS699* G G T G N A N C C C
YF15134 R-FGC24396 G G T G N A N C C C
YF02873 R-FGC24396 G G T G A A C C C C


To these 10 SNPs I’d add these 2: S10547of course and BY180219 (hg19: 22486672/hg38:20234786 (C>T)) recognized from FTDNA to Milani and Venzin but not in the YFull tree between Milani and the Georgian Jew.
Sample ID HG 7707024 22486672

REFSEQ A C

YF01886 R-Z2110* A C
YF15330 R-S10547 G T
HG01277 R-CTS699* A C
YF10633 R-CTS699* A C
YF15134 R-FGC24396 A C
YF02873 R-FGC24396 A C


As it seems from the FTDNA Haplotree that Milani and Venzin haven’t the SNPs Y142676, Y142704 and Y155739, but in the first two the Big Y has usually a no call, whereas it should test Y155739, we have to presuppose that the first two have a no call and also the third in the case of one of the two testers, and that they are all positive. Thus the ancestor of the Georgian Jew may have separated before the ancestor of Milani and Venzin, who got another SNPs in common, or that is the Georgian Jew to get a no call in this position. Of course only who masters the .BAM file may say which is the truth. Anyway it is interesting the pretty contemporaneous separation of these three lines: two in the Alpine zone and another Jewish/Caucasian.

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